April, Track 7, Ripples Rock My Boat

This is a song with a long history and it comes from a demo I (Si here!) did back at the start of 2008. I had a period of about a year where I did a load of recording just using GarageBand and the inbuilt mic on the MacBook – I’ve got about 10 songs or so from then which I always intended to do more with, maybe even release as a little EP or something, but never got round to. One of them was this – which we started playing as a band in the original writing sessions in June last year. I’ve put the demo up for a listen on Soundcloud:

I Still Believe (Ripples Rock My Boat Demo) by Hope and Social

I think, as is occasionally the case, we had different views on how this should sound. I always had this version in my head but the band had added a sort of melancholic country vibe to it which didn’t seem to suit. The idea of the lyric was that the “I still believe” should be a mixture of the profound and throw-away…”I still believe in the appeal on TV”…”I still believe in a magic trick” etc etc…but the weight of the fist recording we did (with an exquisite but dense Eno-esque soundscape from Ed and that end drum loop ALL the way through) seemed to give everything an earnestness which seemed out of place. So, having done one ‘proper’ version we just ripped it up and started again. And thank goodness we did – this final version outstrips the others by a mile. I love Gary’s little piano line and the (relatively) huge organ part half way through is one of the best moments on the album.

One thing we all agreed on was the end – the drum loop and the wedge-shaped build. Ed and Hux have to take the credit for all of that – a lot of studio tom foolery. Chaps anything to add on this for the tech minded out there?

If I remember rightly the origins of this song came from listening to Into My Arms by Nick Cave and, obviously, the opening line “I don’t believe…”. I’m not very good at list-based lyrics but they just suit the aim of the song. Heads up, chin up, shoulders back…I still believe in magic, I still believe in magic. We used that as a slogan for a while and it just rings true, rings clear…I do still believe in magic.

Also should note a lovely day recording guitar and vocal with Ed – really natural – and with the words only half formed it felt really fresh. That’s the good stuff, right there.

[Ed’s Bit]

I love this song… And I love how it feels really natural even though it is very much constructed.  As Si said we practically fully recorded it all big with the drum loop all the way through and just LOTS of stuff and it just didn’t hang right… Me and Si came in one day when no-one else could make it and just started again. Recorded the whole ‘song’ part of the song with just acoustic and vocal and it was just lovely. Used one of my favourite mics, an EV 635A which I picked up an ebay for $25 for the acoustic and vocal and got my favourite sounds on the whole record. The EV635 is a really natural sounding mic,managed to place it really nicely and there’s almost no eq or reverb or compression on either the voice or acoustic. Just what came down the microphone…. Fair play to Si as well… the vocal is sung really really well. We did the loud distant chorus vocal the same day (same mic in the same place once we’d done guitar I don’t think we moved it, we just moved around it) and I think we did the harmonies and then started adding in bits of all the other stuff that we’d recorded already on the other version… The piano melody from Gary, bits of my eno stuff, a low celloe-esque keyboard part in the choruses, the crazy fairground organ stuff (which was Rich and Gary doing a hand each)… All that was all there in some from in the previous recording. There was a little bit of the piano recording where the piano mics picked up a load of the drum loop from the headphone spill and we stole a 2 bar section of that and that’s the little loopy thing that comes in and out on the left hand side. Si did some backing vocals, we did the tape stoppy thing on the organ (which took ages to make sound right) and that was kind of it. It pretty much all came together in a day…

A couple of days later me and Rich were in for a bit and he put his guitar on which was again was really unstructured… I only had him for a couple of hours and so basically we just ran it a few times… got him to play through the drum loop for most of them with no real plan and then I just built it all up  from the best bits after he had to dive off and do day job kinda work… Once I’d done that the rough mix I did is pretty much how the song sounds except the end section which was just like an ongoing project between me and Rich. We’d take turns to arrange the madness so it made more sense and then add more madness and it just got wilder and wilder. Used some utterly crazy free plugins and loads of the wonderful DBglitch (on the organ in the middle and then ALL over the end section). It got to the point where there was so much going on and so much automation and crazy routing that the project just became really unstable. It’d take ages to load and crash for no reason and when you reloaded it would be ‘different’. It was like we were creating a monster! At the same time we were really keen that it wasn’t just noise, that it had melody and ‘sense’. I’m so glad we persevered though. I think it’s my favourite song on the album. It just melts my heart everytime… If you ever chance to listen to it really loud on some stunning speakers then go for it. First 30 seconds just sound like you’re there and you’re actually inside Si’s voice. I love the fact that all the recording was really easy and almost off the cuff,with nearly no thought about what it was all going to be and then we turned it into this wonderfully complex and beautiful thing. There were so many enjoyable bits to making this song. Love it love it.


Join the discussion and tell us your opinion.

Matt Burnside
April 27, 2010 at 3:34 pm

Just wondered if the line “I still believe in our one big hit” related to Four Day Hombre’s “The First Word Is The Hardest”

My reason is Rich clearly plays the intro style delay used on that song, thought it was like a nice homage….

May 1, 2010 at 11:48 am
– In reply to: Matt Burnside

Nice spot Matt, there’s actually two references guitar wise, there’s the “dick dick dick” [yes, I said dick thrice – so what of it?] delay guitar and in the left speaker there’s a harmonics part that’s playing the “so we collide…” melody. So yeah, that’s exactly what we were going for. Big tick, gold star and well spotted.

Matt Burnside
May 2, 2010 at 8:42 am
– In reply to: thehuxcapacitor

Nice to include things like that on a record. Something for people to discuss, like right here and im sure there is a lot of other people hearing things on the album they wanna discuss too. Still my favourite song on the album, has a real sadness to it which could bring me to tears but then your kinda out of that at the end with a god feeling.

Ben Denison
April 28, 2010 at 8:51 am

Yeah, Im pretty sure it is a homage to FDh, The First Word is The Hardest. Made me laugh loud and hard when I heard it, which I didnt for several listens. Did anyone else miss it?

If you listen again you can actually hear simon smiling as he sings it.

Its a superb song this.

Si, you should get people up who’ s birthday it is to sing the “I still believe in the birthday wish” line at gigs!

Matt Burnside
April 28, 2010 at 9:13 am
– In reply to: Ben Denison

Yeah i thought you could hear a kinda of smile on his face on the line too! Has definately become my fav. track on the album!

Has a real sadness but happiness kinda of thing going on too…

April 28, 2010 at 9:09 am

Spotted it first time around, must have been all those listens doing the video! This, “Caught by the Wave” and the title track are my favourites thus far. That said, I love it all. Makes me smile, a little tearful in parts and that thing that alot of your work does – makes me wanna just lift my arms up – if that makes sense

Matt Burnside
May 29, 2010 at 12:14 am

Just listened to this song again on some good speakers and wow the end section is just too big. I think my ears are bleeding :) Love it….

Mark Parrini
June 5, 2010 at 7:54 am

This is still my favourite, and has now been played about 40 times. Every time you hear it, something new pops out of it! I tried to explain this to Ed a while back, after a couple of Guiness!, and it didn’t make sense, but went along the lines that the track had a sound and feel of something in 3D for your ears. Kind of like the Lake District, the pictures are nice, but to be there is even better.
This song could be in my all time fav’s top 10, it’s close – with over 30 years of listening to music.

June 14, 2010 at 2:30 pm
– In reply to: Mark Parrini

Wow thanks Mark. Big words and they mean a great deal. Now, to try to shoehorn this into the live set.